02-23-2024, 10:33 PM
I've asked this question on other SH fansites and nobody can give me an answer ^__^ ... Anyways, who is Alessa's father? Is he even mentioned in the game(s)? I've always had a feeling it was Kauffman. Any theories?
Alessa's Daddy
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02-23-2024, 10:33 PM
I've asked this question on other SH fansites and nobody can give me an answer ^__^ ... Anyways, who is Alessa's father? Is he even mentioned in the game(s)? I've always had a feeling it was Kauffman. Any theories?
02-24-2024, 06:35 AM
I think that depends on how you view Alessa became the holy mother. If, like I believe, Alessa was created in a process akin to the one in Rosemary's Baby, that would make the God itself the true father, the whole thing a sort of twisted immaculate conception, and Alessa something of a monster from inception (which would support my theory that Heather turned evil at the end of SH3).
Or, if you don't think they placed the fetus of the God inside Alessa until after realizing she had holy powers and would thus be the one to birth it, then it would make sense that Kaufmann was the father and the whole last scene of the Good endings becomes something of a tete a tete between two people fighting over the power of their misused daughter, not to mention two people who should be up for worst parents EVER. This is just an aside and not really pertinent to anything, but does anyone else think Kaufmann took advantage of Lisa while he had her hooked on the drug, before he killed her? In that case the confession tape might have been to him, before she finally lost it on him as we see in the opening scene. Just a thought...
02-28-2024, 06:18 AM
I agree with mypaku's theory. They were trying to summon God in the first place. He didn't just show up in Alessa. I like the parallel between Rosemary's Baby as well. Well done ^^
And I think there is a very good chance of that, but I doubt it has anything to do with the games. Kauffman wasn't the most outstanding citizen. He only did the right thing in the end because he was pissed at being used~
03-03-2024, 09:06 AM
Considering the fact that Alessa could very well be Lobsel Vith then it would be plausible that Alessa wouldn't need a father.
The only problem with this is that Dahlia doesn't start persisting Alessa to birth God until she learns that she has powers. Of course there's also another theory I've heard that Dahlia isn't really Alessa's mother at all.
"Believers hearken to me! Twenty score men and seven thousand beasts. Heed my words and speaketh them to all, that they shall ever be obeyed even under the light of the proud and merciless
sun. ." - Xuchilbara
03-04-2024, 04:45 AM
Dahlia we know, spent a lot of time with the cult and with wish house, it is very possible they worked up some way to impregnate her with Alessa to begin the process of birthing god, making Alessa father to quite possibly be one of the cult leaders at that time. "The Red Devil", Jimmy Stone or some of the others. This is the possibility I hold to most.
03-04-2024, 07:50 AM
I've always figured that they went the way of Rosemary's Baby with Alessa: Samael possesses man, man sleeps with Dahlia, Dahlia gives birth to version of Samael.
03-18-2024, 08:18 AM
I always thought the father was Kauffman for some reason. Probably just net rumors, but I wouldn't rule it out. I do like the Rosemary's Baby theory though.
"When I find her, I'll kill her myself."
03-25-2024, 08:26 AM
In one of the SH comics (among the damned), it says that the main character finds Dahlia and they have a baby and name it Alessa. Coincidence? Nope.
04-01-2024, 03:08 AM
(03-25-2024, 08:26 AM)Shin Wrote: In one of the SH comics (among the damned), it says that the main character finds Dahlia and they have a baby and name it Alessa. Coincidence? Nope. This would hold true to the pictures in the church in SH3. There it's depicted that a man and woman are the vessels. Personally, I always thought it was one of the cult's priests but now I found the page below that says Kaufman was the father. Go down the page and it talks about Alessa. The page also talks about Lisa being the one that kidnapped Dahlia's baby (Cheryl) and the pictures from the church are in the gallery section of the site. I think I read somewhere on that site at least some of the information came from the graphic novels. https://web.archive.org/web/200812261603...ictims.php
04-21-2024, 09:09 AM
I think it's quite simple to understand. Dahlia births Alessa normally by biological means, she only intends to raise her to follow her footsteps as a spiritual medium--SH:C.
I extremly doubt Kaufmann is the father because Dahlia only met him after she burned Alessa at age 7. Their alliance was centered around "false autospy reports, drugs, and magic"--SH:C. We can keep speculating who the father is but their is no true answer [unless SH0 proves this.] Of course though, you guys can still make your theories, I can't stop you, which I like reading reguardless if they've been proven wrong or not. |
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